4: f*ck chess, all my homies play chess (with Jon Mackenzie of the Chess Pit Podcast)

Jon Mackenzie of The Chess Pit podcast joins Julia and JJ to discuss his ambivalence towards chess and chess fandom and explore the ways it can change and how it is already changing.
Jon Mackenzie of The Chess Pit podcast (and Tifo football analytics?) joins JJ and Julia to discuss what he describes as his own ambivalence towards the game of chess. Why is it that chess differs from other sports fandoms in terms of its focus on improvement? What is it about chess that can inspire such unique emotional pitfalls? Could JJ and Julia beat the Chess Pit guys in a fight? 
4: f*ck chess, all my homies play chess (with Jon Mackenzie of the Chess Pit Podcast)
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